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August 10, 2010
Mr. Parent:
I have explained this several times, and have been as polite as possible in the past, and I know that you have seen the explanations that I have presented. I am now beyond simple courtesy and careful language.
St. Pete Beach has NEVER had a serious ballot issue in accordance with what you call our, "our mini-amendment 4 experiment here in SPB", also known as City Charter Section 3.15. The SOLv comprehensive plan vote was a citizen initiative petition, in accordance with City Charter Section 7.02, and had nothing to do with our requirement for a vote on Comprehensive Plan amendments. There has never been a Section 3.15 vote on a plan change that affected serious changes on land use, height, density or intensity. The lawsuits were as a result of a Section 7.02 vote only.
I am tired of explaining this politely, so I will make it clear. Your statement, and that of others who repeatedly make similar arguments about the right of our voters to control changes to the city Comprehensive Plan that blame the lawsuits on Hometown Democracy type policy are either total stupidity on that parts of you and others who say that, or are a result of your intent to lie and mislead the voters of St. Pete Beach and the entire state of Florida. Is that clear. You are either too stupid to understand that of which you are talking, or you are intentionally defrauding those to whom you spread these lies. There you have it. Polite didn't work, so it should now be clear what your comprehension or intentions are.After quoting the ballot language used by St. Pete Beach in its 2008 election, Vice Mayor Ruttencutter continued:
Where did the ballot language explain, or even hint that the proposal would triple the maximum allowed building height, almost triple the number of hotel rooms allowed, allow condos along most of the length of the east side of Gulf Blvd., and require that all new buildings be built almost up against the sidewalk, put condos all over areas of the city where they were previously not allowed, including most of Corey Avenue, the Upham Beach neighborhoods, and up Blind Pass Road. If the ballot language had included these bits of information, instead of just BS about green standards, energy efficiency and other such feel good stuff, which, by the way are not really clearly defined or required in the proposed plan, do you think that the voters would have approved the plan? And the TC-1 land development regulation ballot language included the green statement and the height limit statements, but those issues were never addressed at all within the ordinance that the vote was to approve, making that ballot language a total fraud. The commissioners who put that item on the ballot, and the people who circulated the petition for that item should have all been arrested for defrauding the electorate.
Your weather forecast and farm report response to Mr. Moore was typical of people who spread crap and lather up with misleading irrelevancies to bore and confuse those to whom you apply such techniques of deception. You didn't give him a straight answer about anything, and you perpetuated the same SOLv lies and deceptions that people have had to endure for over three years. You put yourself on the commission after living here less than a year and have little or no knowledge of how we got to where we are, or anything of which you are discussing. I suggest you read the SOLv plans that were presented to the voters and compare what they do to what the ballot language told the voters. Even the name, Save Our Little village is a lie, since their plan intends to destroy the entire character of St. Pete Beach and to create a density and cityscape more like Manhattan with buildings up against the streets, towering above the bumper to bumpertraffic jams it will create. I strongly recommend that you read that plan and decide if that is the city to which you decided to move, or would you rather live in a warm version of Detroit or Chicago, or Cleveland, or whatever hell-hole from which you came.
There, polite didn't work. Let's see if direct clear honesty can get through to you and your SOLv friends and supporters.
Ed RuttencutterRead more about Amendment 4 / Hometown Democracy and why St. Pete Beach is a good example of its flaws.
Ruttencutter will ruin allot of Christmas and Thanksgiving dinners by outing this info. Can you imagine what the families of the vote No on 4 front people will think of them when they figure out exactly the lies their family names are associated with &/or spreading. VOTE YES ON 4 - Make a crooked politician cry.
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ReplyDeleteThanks for posting...but what lies are you referring to? Jim Parent certainly hasn't told any lies, and there are no crooked politicians in St. Pete Beach!
Aside from hurling a lot of insults, Ruttencutter didn't state anything that disproves the fact that all of Florida's cities will be exposed to the same costly ballot language lawsuits as those inflicted upon St. Pete Beach if Amendment 4 passes.